Does any one have a clue which bowl we go to?
Yes all the mocks have us in the Alamo vs Arizona……..but those mocks all have texas not in CFP and texasss taking up a NYears 6 bowl not the CFP
If Louisville beats FSU ,FSU drops out of CFP, then texass is in CFP and we might move up to Cotton Bowl versus Penn state,,,,
FSU lost their star QB which had carried the team, to injury, would have lost to mediocre Florida but for stupid targeting by Florida. Louisville is coming off a loss so they should have extra motivation to beat fsu. Or the other thing that could happen is that the CFP committee sobers up and realizes fsu without their QB is NOT a top 4 team…….
If Louisville beats FSU ,FSU drops out of CFP, then texass is in CFP and we might move up to Cotton Bowl versus Penn state,,,,
FSU lost their star QB which had carried the team, to injury, would have lost to mediocre Florida but for stupid targeting by Florida. Louisville is coming off a loss so they should have extra motivation to beat fsu. Or the other thing that could happen is that the CFP committee sobers up and realizes fsu without their QB is NOT a top 4 team…….
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Keeping in mind that since the beginning of the CFP era only 11% of teams playing in a NY6 bowl were ranked worse than 12th, it's going to be very difficult for OU to get a NY6 bowl selection from the committee. The highest ranked G5 team is Tulane. If they beat SMU (I don't think they will), they will get a NY6 spot. If SMU beats Tulane, then Liberty will most likely get the NY6 spot reserved for highest-ranked G5 team. Assuming favorites all win their CCG, the CFP poll will look something like this...
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. FSU
4. Oregon
5. Texas
6. tOSU
7. Bama
8. Washington
9. Mizzou
10. Penn St
11. Ole Miss
12. OU
You can switch out Ore for Tex, but doesn't change the calculus. The G5 team will kick out one of the teams ranked 5 thru 12 from a NY6 spot. Which team do you think is is more likely to get kicked out? There's no reasonable way that OU advances higher than 12th no matter how the P5 championship games turnout. Furthermore, I think Louisville will beat FSU, and this results will drop OU to 13th.
The only possible pathway for an OU berth in a NY6 game is FSU beats Louisville, SMU beats Tulane and New Mexico St beats Liberty (played tonight). In this scenario, SMU gets the auto NY6 berth as the highest ranked G5 team. Since OU beat SMU, then the committee may decide to replace Mizzou, Penn St or Ole Miss in favor of OU.
Anyway.... OU is probably headed to the Alamo Bowl vs Arizona. If the pukes somehow beat the wrongborns, then OU falls to the next bowl below the Alamo......Pop-Tarts Bowl (LOL) likely against NC State in Orlando on Dec 28.
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. FSU
4. Oregon
5. Texas
6. tOSU
7. Bama
8. Washington
9. Mizzou
10. Penn St
11. Ole Miss
12. OU
You can switch out Ore for Tex, but doesn't change the calculus. The G5 team will kick out one of the teams ranked 5 thru 12 from a NY6 spot. Which team do you think is is more likely to get kicked out? There's no reasonable way that OU advances higher than 12th no matter how the P5 championship games turnout. Furthermore, I think Louisville will beat FSU, and this results will drop OU to 13th.
The only possible pathway for an OU berth in a NY6 game is FSU beats Louisville, SMU beats Tulane and New Mexico St beats Liberty (played tonight). In this scenario, SMU gets the auto NY6 berth as the highest ranked G5 team. Since OU beat SMU, then the committee may decide to replace Mizzou, Penn St or Ole Miss in favor of OU.
Anyway.... OU is probably headed to the Alamo Bowl vs Arizona. If the pukes somehow beat the wrongborns, then OU falls to the next bowl below the Alamo......Pop-Tarts Bowl (LOL) likely against NC State in Orlando on Dec 28.
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As has been posted above, we are most likely going to the Alamo (as 3rd place in the conference) and projected to face Arizona, unless wins and is selected to the CFP.
Here's the Little 14's explanation of who goes where, etc.
https://big12sports.com/news/2019/5/23/211718886.aspx
The good news, no matter where we go, or who we play, we don't have to worry about getting hosed by Yormack's boys.
Here's the Little 14's explanation of who goes where, etc.
https://big12sports.com/news/2019/5/23/211718886.aspx
The good news, no matter where we go, or who we play, we don't have to worry about getting hosed by Yormack's boys.
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The playoff committee is clearly prioritizing "quality losses" over "quality wins."StatesEye wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:55 am Keeping in mind that since the beginning of the CFP era only 11% of teams playing in a NY6 bowl were ranked worse than 12th, it's going to be very difficult for OU to get a NY6 bowl selection from the committee. The highest ranked G5 team is Tulane. If they beat SMU (I don't think they will), they will get a NY6 spot. If SMU beats Tulane, then Liberty will most likely get the NY6 spot reserved for highest-ranked G5 team. Assuming favorites all win their CCG, the CFP poll will look something like this...
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. FSU
4. Oregon
5. Texas
6. tOSU
7. Bama
8. Washington
9. Mizzou
10. Penn St
11. Ole Miss
12. OU
You can switch out Ore for Tex, but doesn't change the calculus. The G5 team will kick out one of the teams ranked 5 thru 12 from a NY6 spot. Which team do you think is is more likely to get kicked out? There's no reasonable way that OU advances higher than 12th no matter how the P5 championship games turnout. Furthermore, I think Louisville will beat FSU, and this results will drop OU to 13th.
The only possible pathway for an OU berth in a NY6 game is FSU beats Louisville, SMU beats Tulane and New Mexico St beats Liberty (played tonight). In this scenario, SMU gets the auto NY6 berth as the highest ranked G5 team. Since OU beat SMU, then the committee may decide to replace Mizzou, Penn St or Ole Miss in favor of OU.
Anyway.... OU is probably headed to the Alamo Bowl vs Arizona. If the pukes somehow beat the wrongborns, then OU falls to the next bowl below the Alamo......Pop-Tarts Bowl (LOL) likely against NC State in Orlando on Dec 28.
Penn State has 2 "good losses" to OhioSt & Mich. Other than that, they've hardly played any teams with a pulse. Iowa would have to be considered their best win.
Mizzou has 2 "good losses" to Georgia & LSU. Their best wins are against KSU & Tennessee.
Ole Miss has 2 "good losses" to Georgia & Bama. Their best wins are Tulane & LSU.
OU has the no "good losses" to KU & OSU. Of these 4 2-loss teams, OU has far & away the best win of the bunch vs . OU's next best win is probably SMU.
I think you can make compelling arguments for ranking OU, Mizzou, Ole Miss in any order from 9-11. Penn State, though, not so much IMO.
The CBS has had OU vs Arizona in the Alamo Bowl in San Antonia for a long time on December 28th. The Alamo has the annual match-up with the Big XII and the Pac 12.
I guess Texas will be in the January 1st Fiesta Bowl game against Tulane.
OSU is matched up with ND in the Pop-Tarts Bowl on December 28th.
I would think that the above three Big 12 Bowl games with stick unless some top-matched teams lose their conference championship games.
I guess Texas will be in the January 1st Fiesta Bowl game against Tulane.
OSU is matched up with ND in the Pop-Tarts Bowl on December 28th.
I would think that the above three Big 12 Bowl games with stick unless some top-matched teams lose their conference championship games.
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We will know Sunday ……once they work the bowls from the top down …. Alamo is a mock bowl selection , but they have reasons all the mocks have us at Alamo
The idea of prioritizing “quality losses” is worse than looking at comparative scores, and using the transitive property, but that is exactly what the CFP is doing. Since they look at “quality loses” they might as well look at games decided by the refs and throw those out…..It is as if it were a committee is judging a team based on their worst day with no emphasis on whether a team could win it all. When it goes to 12 team playoff they will have to scrap this bias of high grading based on “good losses” or the playoff will devolve into a joke. With 12 teams they need to focus on the ceiling of a team as they are playing at the end of the year….the 12 best teams at the end of the yearBrisket wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:10 amThe playoff committee is clearly prioritizing "quality losses" over "quality wins."StatesEye wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:55 am Keeping in mind that since the beginning of the CFP era only 11% of teams playing in a NY6 bowl were ranked worse than 12th, it's going to be very difficult for OU to get a NY6 bowl selection from the committee. The highest ranked G5 team is Tulane. If they beat SMU (I don't think they will), they will get a NY6 spot. If SMU beats Tulane, then Liberty will most likely get the NY6 spot reserved for highest-ranked G5 team. Assuming favorites all win their CCG, the CFP poll will look something like this...
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. FSU
4. Oregon
5. Texas
6. tOSU
7. Bama
8. Washington
9. Mizzou
10. Penn St
11. Ole Miss
12. OU
You can switch out Ore for Tex, but doesn't change the calculus. The G5 team will kick out one of the teams ranked 5 thru 12 from a NY6 spot. Which team do you think is is more likely to get kicked out? There's no reasonable way that OU advances higher than 12th no matter how the P5 championship games turnout. Furthermore, I think Louisville will beat FSU, and this results will drop OU to 13th.
The only possible pathway for an OU berth in a NY6 game is FSU beats Louisville, SMU beats Tulane and New Mexico St beats Liberty (played tonight). In this scenario, SMU gets the auto NY6 berth as the highest ranked G5 team. Since OU beat SMU, then the committee may decide to replace Mizzou, Penn St or Ole Miss in favor of OU.
Anyway.... OU is probably headed to the Alamo Bowl vs Arizona. If the pukes somehow beat the wrongborns, then OU falls to the next bowl below the Alamo......Pop-Tarts Bowl (LOL) likely against NC State in Orlando on Dec 28.
Penn State has 2 "good losses" to OhioSt & Mich. Other than that, they've hardly played any teams with a pulse. Iowa would have to be considered their best win.
Mizzou has 2 "good losses" to Georgia & LSU. Their best wins are against KSU & Tennessee.
Ole Miss has 2 "good losses" to Georgia & Bama. Their best wins are Tulane & LSU.
OU has the no "good losses" to KU & OSU. Of these 4 2-loss teams, OU has far & away the best win of the bunch vs . OU's next best win is probably SMU.
I think you can make compelling arguments for ranking OU, Mizzou, Ole Miss in any order from 9-11. Penn State, though, not so much IMO.
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Also, OU will be the only team to have beaten 2 Conf Champions
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